I think, this project is very important for many people in the world. I like to support this project.
But I fnd here anlo a few cruncher. Why? I tjink the crunchers like this project too, but they like alos credits to have a good rankink in the BOINC statistics
The credits here are vero low. You should 3 or 4 times of the actual credits and yiz will have much mire crunchers here.
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I think, this project is very important for many people in the world. I like to support this project.
But I fnd here anlo a few cruncher. Why? I tjink the crunchers like this project too, but they like alos credits to have a good rankink in the BOINC statistics
The credits here are vero low. You should 3 or 4 times of the actual credits and yiz will have much mire crunchers here.
Thanks.
This has been discussed in the past and there are MANY things to consider before you juts 'give out more credits'. Yes if you give out mroe credits more people will come, you are correct, but it also means that puts an increased workload on everything at the Project level, servers, admin people, tech support volunteers, etc, etc. If a project can not do that too, then it is better to leave things alone, something is better than nothing!
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This has been discussed in the past and there are MANY things to consider before you juts 'give out more credits'. Yes if you give out mroe credits more people will come, you are correct, but it also means that puts an increased workload on everything at the Project level, servers, admin people, tech support volunteers, etc, etc. If a project can not do that too, then it is better to leave things alone, something is better than nothing!
Thanks für your replay.
The question is, what is the gool af this project? It is right what you said, But if this project brings succes for the overall goal, the cost for the server and so on is not too high.
If this project ist for the overall goal nit so impportant than you should cancel all activity here.
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I haven't been back to this project for quite some time because, at that time, it didn't "play well" with my other Boinc project "SETI@Home". I like to keep my SETI queue at about 10 days for te times SETI has equipment prob's (like now). In the past, if I had a 10 day queue Malaria would fill it with WU's with a 4 day deadline, this would create a lot of "running in high priority" WU's and a lot of timeout/dead WU's i.e. wasted cpu time. I now only come back here when I can set my queue to .25 days and wait for SETI to come back up.
Does this project "play well" with a queue set to 10 days? I would LOVE to dedicate a couple of CPU's to it ... but the "clean up" in the past was too painful.
As for credit? Who the H--- cares? I want a project mix that needs NO supervision and gets science done!
(BTW is there a GPU WU generator in the works??)
Ed F
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I haven't been back to this project for quite some time because, at that time, it didn't "play well" with my other Boinc project "SETI@Home". I like to keep my SETI queue at about 10 days for te times SETI has equipment prob's (like now). In the past, if I had a 10 day queue Malaria would fill it with WU's with a 4 day deadline, this would create a lot of "running in high priority" WU's and a lot of timeout/dead WU's i.e. wasted cpu time. I now only come back here when I can set my queue to .25 days and wait for SETI to come back up.
Does this project "play well" with a queue set to 10 days? I would LOVE to dedicate a couple of CPU's to it ... but the "clean up" in the past was too painful.
As for credit? Who the H--- cares? I want a project mix that needs NO supervision and gets science done!
(BTW is there a GPU WU generator in the works??)
Ed F
I want to see the eradication of malaria and the immense suffering it causes. I just crunch the tasks and hope my crunching will contribute eventually to a positive result. This was my first project and I will continue here as well as with WCG projects (C4Cw, HCC, HPF 2, DDDT, etc) hoping this work will help people suffering from the effects of filthy water and disease. Credits? These are OK but not the goal.
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There seems to be an assumption here: either we should be using as much computing power as we can possibly get or we shouldn't be using BONIC at all. That's not really true. At the moment our fitting runs are using plenty of computing power and every so often we run experiments which require much more computing power than we have available in our office but a relatively small amount compared to the on-going fitting runs. I don't think we'd be able to carry on our project in anything like the way we do now (if at all) without the help of you guys and girls. On the other hand our team has a lot of work to do that can't just be handed to a computer.
Secondly, maybe I should state what should be obvious: feeding massive amounts of computer power into a project like this is never going to eradicate malaria on it's own. Our project has the goals of testing the best ways of employing existing interventions beyond what can be done in clinical trials, and to estimate the effectiveness of new strategies for combating malaria. This information should prove very useful in planning local and country-wide health-care strategies, but obviously the amount of money available also plays a role.
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Thank Tom for your clarification. I wish you all the best on your way. Bye bye.
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I haven't been back to this project for quite some time because, at that time, it didn't "play well" with my other Boinc project "SETI@Home". I like to keep my SETI queue at about 10 days for te times SETI has equipment prob's (like now). In the past, if I had a 10 day queue Malaria would fill it with WU's with a 4 day deadline, this would create a lot of "running in high priority" WU's and a lot of timeout/dead WU's i.e. wasted cpu time. I now only come back here when I can set my queue to .25 days and wait for SETI to come back up.
Does this project "play well" with a queue set to 10 days? I would LOVE to dedicate a couple of CPU's to it ... but the "clean up" in the past was too painful.
Ed F
Yes it can but it does require some configuring ion your part, go inot Your Account on the web page and then into Preferences for this project. Change the top line from 100 to say 10, that give Malaria only 10% of the cpu time on your pc and that should balance out your Seti and Malaria. If it still gives you trouble you can lower it down all the way to 1, or anywhere in between 1 and 100 if you like. It has LONG been suggested we be able to dedicate one or two of our multi core cpu's to a project, and put the others on another project, but the powers that be at Seti do not like that. Dr. David Anderson of Seti created Boinc and still maintains it, it is his 'baby'.
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I'sn't this a moot point. When the project and all other projects upgrade and start using the new credit system, credits will be handed out more evenly based on resources used (efficiency of programmed apps) and projects that either hand out too little or too much (either accidentially or on purpose ) will not have control anymore, thus making the playing field equal for all.
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That does assume all projects upgrade to the latest BOINC server system. The recent upgrade wrecked the control of many projects, and recovery entailed the significant redirection of resources.
I suspect those projects that had this experience, and are running OK now under their own full control, will remain with the current BOINC server script.
Obviously that is Dr A at work again trying to get all projects into the same mould as the SETI elephant.
I am OK with Malaria's credit given.
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